I think those are pretty much it. Someone more knowledgeable (or those that own both) can drop in and add some more info.

I can also add that the handguard on the Pred has had some weight shaved out of it and yes, it is longer. In my experience, there were many requests for the longer handguard to give one more rail room and to accomidate newer shooting styles.

The Pred is less expensive. You can save some scratch towards the purchase of a quality optic.

Lastly, having shot and handled both, the Pred feels like a toy compared to the OBR. Unless you are planning on doing precision shooting or running a suppressor, the Pred is a great choice for your first rifle.
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The only reason you can’t now is because your handguard won’t let the Eotech 512 scoot as far forward as it can. With a quad rail, you can put the crossbolt on the Eotech 512 in the forward-most slot on the receiver. Check out this thread, agentile posts a picture of a rifle with a quad rail and a BUIS, mag, and Eotech 512 all on the reciever.

BLUEDOG, Thanks. Though you don’t have a BUIS to try, maybe with the 517 and magnifier mounted on there, we will be able to see if there’s a couple of picatinny ramps left over to just squeeze in a BUIS. Personally, I have doubts that the 3 will fit, but I’m not giving up hope until I know for sure. Should there also be co-witness concerns too, when trying to use a BUIS with the higher 517 (??)

OBC Thanks for the link, and help.

I’ve had a number of options for quite some time already if I was willing to get rid of the M4 handguards. But my intent is to keep my pristine Colt 6920 in it’s original state without any modifications to it. I own other AR’s that I can do this with, but I really want to leave the Colt 6920 as is. I was hoping that when EOTech designed this new 517 that they would have engineered it to move far forward enough over the M4 handguard to fit the magnifier and BUIS too. I have a feeling it will still fall short of the required room necessary and not go quite far enough forward to fit the BUIS.

I’m concerned with the 517 being manufactured so it’s raised up 7mm, if cowitnessing through a BUIS would work properly too.

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hey guys i am a new member to this site. i currently own 2 AR-15s. I am considering buying an EOTech Eotech 512 for my Stag 16inch .Do you guys have any opinions?
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get it
… great scope, have two
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10/20/2011 5:54:47
Originally Posted By Shooter_G22:
been thinking of building one of these 5.45′s but i was wondering how the accuracy is on these 5.45′s anybody have any targets they would be willing to share… Diferant loads / surplus rounds…

as far as i can tell the only thing available is the:
corrosive surplus
silver bear
brown bear
wolf

bullet weights from 52-60gr FMJ’s ??? ir there not any Hollow points or softpoint….

How would this little rifle be for hunting small game..???

Bullet weights are from 52-70, and there’s also Golden Tiger 5.45, and Hornady 5.45 (polymer tip).

I find the Surplus pretty accurate

This was a shot taken at 100 yards.

Now if I can just find an acog that dosent cost as much as the rifle. I recieved a A Colt Matchshooting targetsLightweight in a trade. It is the one with the PC BCG that has been cut to make it a semi auto and the lower has a block where the Auto sear would go .
Question is can this be made to accept a FA BCG? I really don’t want to keep it in this configuration.
Any ideas?

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You have to remove the sear block to use a FA BCG. ADCO can remove it for you.

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Carefully cut the ‘block’ off.
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Originally Posted By jcrowl:
You have to remove the sear block to use a FA BCG. ADCO can remove it for you.

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The reason I like the Mesa is because you can get a Hogue grip on it. Depidy_Dawg 4/9/2010 11:43:23 PM Originally Posted By ArmyLifer: Originally Posted By aippi: Your wallet will make it for you as you can get a SpecOps for between $110 and $120 but the Mesa is around $300.00. If you want the best then go Mesa. the recoil reduction systems are totally different so it is hard to compare the stocks. I find the transistion of the weapon through the firing stage is a lot smoother with the Endine buffer then with the simple two spring system of the SpecOps. The one issue that may help you decide is that the Mesa has to fired from the shoulder to receive any recoild reduction as the Endine buffer is in the stock tube. The SpecOps has to two springs, the main one is in the pistol grip so you still get the benifit of recoil reduction when shooting from the hip. IMHO, this is the best reply to the OP. The reasons cited are on point and why I went with the Knoxx SpecOps. I added the Knoxx PowerPac (side saddle, high cheek weld) and a Pachmayr GripAll to finish off the stock. I do have one Mesa Tactical piece; their one point sling ring, works great. For the sight a NC Star ; red/ green, 3 brightness levels and 4 different reticles. Yeah, I know NC star is at the bottom of the list, but the wife bought it being nice and I actually like it alot. For $60 what the hell. She likes it and it is the house HD gun which she also shoots.

Red_Label 9/13/2009 10:19:05 PM Originally Posted By panzersergeant: Originally Posted By Sniperbait: This would be easier to make. You could start with a surplus stock. Mate it to an AK folder or something else that will screw to wood. . http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/SniperBait/FoldingStock004.jpg Wow, where can I get a stock like that? –

I have a 930 SPX I traded for another here that has a Mesa Tactical side saddle on it. This shotgun has failures to cock after shots. The shell is ejected but the gun does not recock for the next shot most times. THis happens with any ammo from redeuced recoil slug and buck, to 3 inch mags and regular walmart bulk birdshot. Here is my issue. I need a set of receiver pins to test and see if this side saddle is the cause of the issue. Does anyone have a spare set laying around for sale or have any advice to offer on this issue? I placed both a call and an email to Mossberg 500 Accessories regarding this issue and the only reply I ever received was a nice catalog. Update, I called Mesa Tactical for some insight and they said they will send me some replacement screws and that should fix the issue. update update!

I was about to start the investigation on the pro’s and con’s on it. I figure it is more of a PIA for the stock and hand guards but figure there must be other obstacles. Please fill me in on the con’s. Happy Friday to all…this has been one MF of a week. raf [Site Staff] 6/10/2005 1:47:24 PM Match barrels are heavier, and also almost always come with tight Match chambers which are designed for carefully sized match Ammo. Such Match chambers often do not reliably digest milsurp, which is made to looser tolerances than Match ammo. ETA: You can always enlarge a Match chamber so as to reliably digest commercial and milsurp ammo. You can even shoot match ammo if you wish, although the accuracy will be degraded a bit. Most shooters wouldn’t notice that amount of degradation. However, the reverse, I.E., setting-back an M1/M1A barrel and cutting its chamber to Match specs is not at all easy to do. If you wanted to go that route, most gunsmiths would yank the old barrel, and install/headspace a Match barrel. Consider also that a well-done 7.62 Garand conversion only involves changing the barrel and headspacing it to your bolt. Your old barrel is returned, and the alteration can be reversed in the future if you wish. Point to this is that even if your barrel choices for your 7.62 Garand are all match barrels, a simple chamber reaming will fix you up for your intended use. If you can find a 7.52 NATO barrel with like chamber, buy it and save the bucks over a more expensive match barrel. dpmmn 6/10/2005 1:49:16 PM Originally Posted By texashark: I know I’m about to be flamed but: FRIENDS DON’T LET FRIENDS BUY CHINESE M1A’S. The Chinese don’t make M1A’s, THey make a M14S Wojo

6/10/2005 4:51:21 PM Makes sense… thanks for pointing that out before I became enslaved from premium ammo. That’s part of reason I had a Love-Hate relationship with my old AR10T. randyj13 6/11/2005 12:04:53 AM you got to get the m1a. It is nothing but better. I have 3 M1s and an M1A. I am working on getting together the parts to have another M1A Accessories built to supermatch specs but maxed out. If you shoot local matches and want to stay traditional. The M1A Accessories will give you a step up. They both get match condidtioned the same way. The M1A Accessories will hold up a lot longer. Also if you get a single or double lugged gun, it will stay close to true when pulled out of the stock. 308 is also a better consistent round. Good luck and just have funnnnn texashark 6/13/2005 7:11:20 AM Originally Posted By Wojo: TXShark…No Flame here…but ,… by the way, which one is pink? –